DUPA 36 DE ANI – THE GAY MANIFESTO OF 1971
In 1848 Karl Marx a publicat Manifestul Comunist pledind pentru comunism si un stat comunist. Dupa 69 de ani, in 1917, primul sistem politic comunist cunoscut lumii a fost instaurat in Uniunea Sovietica. A fost cel mai crunt sistem politic cunoscut istoriei, a dainuit cu putin peste 70 de ani si in cursul existentei lui a cauzat moartea a zeci de milioane de oameni inocentin – cel mai atroce genocid cunoscut istoriei. A promis raiul dar a institutionalizat infernul.
In 1925 si 1926 Adolf Hitler a publicat Mein Kampf, militind pentru un sistem politic national socialist fondat pe ideile lui Friedrich Nietzsche si superioritatea rasei germane. Dupa 12 ani, in 1933, primul sistem politic national socialist cunoscut istoriei a fost instaurat in Germania Nazista. La fel ca Stalin, Hitler a promis al Treilea Reich, un rai pe pamint, dar, tot la fel ca Stalin, a dat omenirii un alt infern. Intre 1939 si 1945 nazismul german a cauzat cel mai mare conflict militar cunoscut istoriei, pe parcursul caruia au murit zeci de milioane de oameni nevinovati.
The Gay Manifesto (1971)
Mai putin cunoscut noua si, de fapt, intregii lumi, este ca in 1971 homosexualii britanici au lansat Manifestul Gay, The Gay Manifesto of 1971, revizuit in 1978. [Textul: http://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/pwh/glf-london.asp] Nu l-am analizat niciodata pina acuma. E vremea sa o facem, pentru ca, asemenea Manifestului Comunist din 1848 si a lui MeinKampf, Manifestul Gay a intors lumea pe dos, a produs o rasturnare a valorilor nemaicunoscuta in istorie si deja a produs milioane de victime inocente. Victimizarea continua, cu ajutorul institutiilor de stat si internationale. Paralele intre cele trei Manifeste sunt evidente si greu de ignorat. Fiecare a promis o societate noua, o realitate istorica noua, radical diferita de cea cu care fiintele umane erau obisnuite si in care s-au nascut. Una care i-a facut pe oameni curiosi, interesati, increzatori ca ceea ce le-a fost promis va produce modificari sociale, politice si economice pozitive si le va inbunatati viata. Comunistii au vazut in proprietatea privata radacina tuturor relelor si in abolirea ei prescriptia pentru rezolvarea tuturor problemelor cu care societatea s-a confruntat vreme de mii de ani. Ajunsi la putere, comunistii au abolit proprietatea privata cauzind un haos economic nemaintilnit pina atunci in istorie. Nazistii au vazut rasele „inferioare” din aceasi perspectiva: radacina tuturor relelor cunoscute istoriei, iar eliminarea lor reteta pentru rezolvarea tuturor problemelor cu care arienii se confruntau.
Homosexualii au detinut si inca detin aceasi perspectiva, una care e evidenta din primele rinduri ale Manifestului pe care il studiem cu deamanuntul mai jos. Dupa cum veti vedea, pentru homosexuali, familia binara alcatuita din barbat, femeie si copii, bazata pe relatii de monogamie si heteronormativitate, e radacina tuturor relelor cunscute istoriei. Reteta pentru rezolvarea acestor probleme e aceasi: eliminarea familiei, a heteronormativitatii si a monogamiei.
Frapeaza deasemenea o alta paralela intre cele trei Manifeste: indiferenta noastra, a oamenilor decenti si cu bun simt fata de ideile radicale semanate cu zeci de ani inainte de instaurarea regimurilor promise. Majoritatea cetatenilor au ignorat Manifestul Comunist, Mein Kampf, si Manifestul Gay din 1971, zimbind si zicindu-si ca ceea ce au citit ori auzit sunt niste idei bizare dar trecatoare si fara consecinte. Asemenea unei dureri de cap. Niste idei care nu vor fi niciodata puse in aplicatie. Dar s-au inselat. Din fericire pentru occidentali, Manifestul Comunist a facuta ravagii doar in Estul Europei, ei fiind scutiti de cruzimea sistemului comunist. Nazismul, insa, a afectat atit occidentalii cit si europenii de est. Iar revolutia sexuala, avind ca varf de lance miscarea homosexuala, face ravagii de citeva decenii mai mult in Occident ca in Europa de Est. Ironic, comunismul ne-a protejat de revolutia sexuala, care e inca relativ recenta in Europa de Est si in Romania.
Nu putem ignora nici perioada relativ scurta de timp intre plantarea ideilor radicale din cele trei Manifeste si consecintele lor. Daca a luat comunismului 69 de ani pentru a-si atinge scopul, lui Hitler i-a luat doar 12 ani, iar revolutiei homosexuale mai putin de 30 de ani. Nici numarul vast al victimelor nu poate fi trecut cu vederea ori exagerat. La fel ca si comunismul si nazismul, revolutia sexuala si homosexuala a facut milioane de victime. Cine sunt victimele revolutiei sexuale? Lista e lunga si ne include si pe noi: victimele divortului (parintii, copiii, nepotii); cei care vizualizeaza ori sunt dependenti de pornografie (in cifre de probabil miliarde de oameni); femeile care au facut ori fac avort; copiii nenascuti ucisi in avort; persoanele dependente de sex; copiii nascuti din surogat care nu isi cunosc mama ori tata; cei care comercializeaza (adica cumpara ori vind) material genetic masculin ori feminin; mamele purtatoare si femeile care sunt folosite pentru a aduce pe lume copii prin surogat; copiii adoptati de homosexuali; ori copiii crescuti de cupluri de acelasi sex.
Usurinta cu care factorii mediatici, politici, si legislativi au imbratisat ideile celor trei Manifeste nu poate sa ne scape nici ea din vedere. Manifestul Comunist, Mein Kampf si Manifestul Gay si-au gasit adepti numerosi si vociferi intr-un timp relativ scurt. Intelectualii, jurnalistii, politicienii, legiutorii, judecatorii, avocatii, si chiar unii factori religiosi au sprijinit si promovat aceste idei toxice fara a se gandi la consecintele lor la fel de toxice.
Ce e Manifestul Gay din 1971?
In 1971 a fost publicat la Londra The Gay Manifesto („Manifestul Gay”) de catre un grup de homosexuali britanici care la vremea aceea se identificau sub numele de Gay Liberation Front („Frotul de Eliberare Gay”). Manifestul Gay a fost revizuit in 1978 si are zece (10) pagini. Ce uimeste privind acest Manifest este ca fara exceptie toate ideile si obiectivele enuntate in el au fost puse in actiune, transformate in realitate, ori sunt pe cale de a fi transformate in realitate, in Europa Occidentala, America de Nord si, intr-un numar tot mai mare, in multe tari ale lumii. Ultima victima care a capitulat Manifestului Gay a fost Germania, care pe 30 iunie a legalizat casatoriile homosexuale. Manifestul Gay e similar cu Manifestul Comunist si Mein Kampf in mai multe privinte. El identifica un grup social specific, in cazul acesta homosexualii, care se autodefineste ca fiind victimizat de societate; cauzele nemultumirilor homosexualilor; institutiile sociale care ii asupresc; si retetele specifice pentru eliminarea asupririi homosexualilor. Homsexualii se identifica in Manifestul lor ca fiind „maniosi” („angry”), la fel ca toate grupurile asuprite din trecut. Societatea heterosexuala, zic ei, ii trateaza ca si pe niste fiinte sub-umane si e vremea, adauga ei, sa se organizeze si sa actioneze pentru a-si dobindi libertatea.
Institutiile care asupresc homosexualii
Manifestul identifica institutii sociale specifice care in opinia lor ii asupresc. In primul rind e FAMILIA. Asuprirea homosexualilor incepe in familie, unde barbatul e „stapin”, sotia „sclava” barbatului, iar copii „robi” ai barbatului. Prin natura ei, familia se impotriveste homosexualitatii si homosexualilor. („The very form of the family works against homosexuality”). Familia binara fondata pe relatia dintre sexele opuse ii face pe homosexuali sa se simta plini de rusine, vinovatie si falimentari. A doua institutie care asupreste homosexualii e SCOALA deoarece ea promoveza (ori promova la vremea aceea) moralitatea sexualitatii in familie si casatorie, intre un barbat si o femeie casatoriti, bazata pe doctrinele crestinismului. Sistemul educativ era vazut la vremea aceea ca o extensie a moralitatii crestine („an extension of Christian morality”). A treia institutie care asuprea homosexualii era BISERICA. Invatatorile crestine privind sexualitatea si familia erau vazute ca fiind demodate, arhaice si irationale. („Christianity’s archaic and irrational teachings support the family and marriage as the only permitted condition for sex”).
A parta institutie care asuprea homosexualii era MASS MEDIA. Mass media era atacata pentru ca, in opinia homosexualilor, promova o imagine nagativa si incorecta privind homosexualii – perverti, pedofili, monstri, degenerati, si apara familia traditionala promovind casatoria binara intre un barbat si o femeie. A cincea problema cu care homosexualii erau confruntati era VOCABULARUL. Vocabularul deceniilor trecute era atacat ca promovind „ideologia si moralitatea anti-homosexuala” („anti-homosexual morality and ideology”). Vocabularul era desemnat sa denigreze homosexualii si relatiile sexuale intre persoane de acelasi sex. LOCUL DE MUNCA era ostil homosexualilor pentru ca atmosfera era dominata de atitudinile presupus homofobe ale colegilor de munca fata de angajatii homosexuali. Anumite functii in companiile prestigioase erau rezervate doar heterosexualilor si in special barbatilor casatoriti cu copii, pentru a da impresia ca barbatii heterosexuali casotoriti sunt mai siguri de ei insisi, mai confidenti si mai capabili sa promoveze o imagine pozitiva a companiei decit barbatii homosexuali.
O alta institutie sociala care era vazuta ca asuprind homosexualii era SISTEMUL LEGAL. Plingerile majore ale homosexualilor britanici in 1971 erau legile care interziceau relatiile sexuale intre persoane de acelasi sex sub 21 de ani, ori sa adopte copii. Erau preocupati si de faptul ca violenta impotriva homosexualilor nu are luata in serios de politie dar violenta la cuplurile heterosexuale era. Critici majore erau aduse si PSIHIATRIEI pentru ca la vremea aceea ea inca identifica homosexualitatea ca pe o boala psihica si inca recomanda terapie pentru reabilitarea inclinatiilor homosexuale, homosexualii pretinzind, dimpotriva, ca homosexualitatea e normala.
Remedii si modificari sociale
Manifestul Gay din 1971 recomanda masuri concrete pentru eliberarea homosexualilor. In primul rind, cerea „toleranta si egalitate” („tolerance and equality”), si ” o schimbare revolutionara in intreaga societate” („a revolutionary change in our whole society”). Schimbarea trebuia sa inceapa cu „FAMILIA PATRIARHALA”. Toate problemele cu care se confrunta homosexualii, afirma in repetate rinduri Manifestul Gay, au ca si cauza principala familia patriarhala (cauza nenorocirilor „is rooted in our society’s most basic institution – the Patriarchal Family”). Homosexualii afirma ca, la fel ca toti membrii societatii, ei au fost socializati, impotriva vointei lor, sa gandeasca ca familia este sursa fericirii si implinirii personale. In aceste invataturi erau indoctrinati copiii de la o varsta frageda, ceea ce face aproape imposibil sa schimbi atitudinile lor si ale parintilor lor fata de homosexuali si homosexualitate. Aceste invataturi sunt nu doar eronate dar si greu de schimbat pentru ca isi au originea in Biblie si doctrinele crestine. Sunt eronate pentru ca, in afara diferentelor biologice, nu exista nicio diferenta intre barbati si femei („… there are no proven systematic differences between male and female, apart from the obvious biologic ones”) si nu ne nastem ca barbati ori femei ci suntem socializati sa devenim barbati si femei („all differences of temperament, aptitudes and so on, are the result of upbringing and social pressure. They are not inborn”). Intreaga societate e construita pe familia patriarhala, iar religia, cultura, literatura si arta fortifica familia patriarhala cu toate aspectele si consecintele ei toxice. („Our entire society is built around the patriarchal family and its enshrinment of these masculine and feminine roles. Religion, polular morality, art, literature and sport reinforce these stereotypes”).
Cum e usor de inteles, abolirea asupririi homosexualilor implica reformarea radicala a familiei patriarhale. Dar reformele nu sunt suficiente. Atita timp cit familia patriarhala exista, copiii crescuti in ele vor invata si detine atitudini impotrivitoare si ostile homosexualilor. Care deci e solutia finala? Abolirea familiei ca institutie. Manifestul Gay e direct, clar si agresiv privind acest obiectiv: „We must aim at the abolition of the family, so that the sexist, male supremacist system can no longer be nurtured there”. („Trebuie sa tintim spre abolirea familiei, pentru ca sistemul sexist al barbatului suprem sa nu mai poata fi perpetuat”)
Abolirea familiei e un imperativ imediat care, in opinia autorilor Manifestului, poate lua citiva ani ori citeva decenii. Ce pasi concreti trebuie facuti pentru abolirea ei? In primul se impune abolirea monogamiei obligatorii. Monogamia, zice Manifestul, e o doctrina impusa tuturor membrilor societatii. Homosexualii nu pot fi monogami prin natura sexualitatii lor si de aceea ei isi traiesc viata in afara familiei si casatoriei traditionale. Monogamia e o forma de asuprire a femeii de catre sotul ei. In virtutea monogamiei femeia si copiii ei devin proprietatea barbatului. („Monogamy is usually based on ownership – the woman sells her services to the man in return for security for herself and her children – and is entirely bound up in the man’s idea of property. Furthermore, in our society the monogamous couple with or without childern, is an isolated, shut-in, up-tight unit, suspicious of and hostile to outsiders”) Monogamia sufoca homosexualii, le cauzeaza dependente nevrotice si infidelitate. Abolirea monogamiei implica abolirea rolurilor sexuale in care barbatii si femeile sunt socializati din copilarie.
Inca din 1971 homosexualii si-au cautat aliati pentru dobindirea obiectivelor lor. Un aliat natural pe care l-au aflat, care si el la rindul lui cere abolirea casatoriei si a familiei, e miscarea feminista si miscarea de eliberare a femeilor in voga in Europa Occidentala si America de Nord in anii 60 si 70. In final, Manifestul Gay isi re-enunta obiectivele fundamentale: abolirea familiei, casatoriei si monogamiei; eliminarea discriminarii impotriva homosexualilor la locul de munca; promovarea notiunii ca relatiile sexuale intre persoane de acelasi sex sunt normale („perfectly valid”); reformarea educatiei sexuale in scoli cu scopul de a normaliza homosexualitatea; reformarea psihiatriei cu scopul de a declara homosexualitatea o varianta normala a sexualitatii umane; reducerea varstei legale pentru intretinerea relatilor sexuale intre persoane de acelasi sex.
Situatia actuala
E usor de observat ca obiectivele Manifestului Gay din 1971 au fost atinse in mare parte si ca este doar o chestiune de timp pina cind ele vor fi atinse in intregime acolo unde factorii mediatici, politici, publicul, oamenii de buna credinta, si liderii religiosi vor imbratisa si vor continua sa promoveze aceste obiective fara discernamint ori fara a lua in considerare consecintele. Pentru tarile si societatiile care se opun si vor continua sa se opuna acestor obiective fara rost si daunatoare, insa, exista nadejde. Cei care cititi indeaproape comentariile noastre saptaminale (marti si joi) stiti unde si cum aceste obiective au fost atinse. In Occident nu exista niciun aspect social, politic, educational, literar, mediatic, ori chiar de natura religioasa care sa nu fi fost afectat de Manifestul Gay din 1971. Mass media occidentala a adoptat, fara exceptie, toate ideile enuntate in Manifest. Le promoveaza zilnic. Politicienii au facut la fel. Legiuitorii si ei. In 1989 Danemarca a devenit primul stat din lume care a legalizat parteneriatele civile homosexuale. La scurt timp dupa acceea s-a produs avalansa bine cunoscuta noua tuturor. Privind casatoriile homosexuale, ghiata a fost sparta in 2002 cind un tribunal din Ontario, Canada a decretat un drept la casatorii homosexuale. A urmat Tribunalul Suprem din Massachusetts care a spart ghiata in SUA in 2003, si apoi Spania in 2004 cind casatoriile homosexuale au fost legalizate pentru prima data intr-o tara europeana. Avalansa continua. Parlamentul European a adoptat si el Manifestul Gay, fiecare rezolutie privind aspecte sociale ale Uniunii Europene continind paragrafe peste paragrafe care plagiaza ideile Manifestului Gay din 1971. Curtea Europeana a Drepturilor Omului a facut la fel. CEDO dovedeste o obsesie deosebita cu drepturile homosexualilor in detrimentul drepturilor celorlalti cetateni ai Consiliului Europei, printre ele drepturile parentale, libertatea de constiinta, libertatea religioasa si libertatea cuvantului.
La nivel international, Manifestul Gay a fost incorporat in rezolutiile adoptate de Adunarea Generala a Natiunilor Unite si in programele de asistenta economica si sociala finantate de ONU. La fel la nivel regional, cum ar fi Curtea Americana a Drepturilor Omului.
Confuzia sexuala e si ea o realitate. Revolutia trangenderista e in toi. Institutionalizarea revolutiei sexuale continua. Abolirea diferentelor dintre barbati si femei si sexe e promovata de ideologia de gen care a devenit una din doctrinele favorite ale secularismului. Ideologia de gen e promovata de institutiile europene, sistemele de educatie europene, mass media si tribunale.
Romania
Si in Romania situatia incepe sa se clarifice si liniile incep sa fie trasate tot mai clar. Calul Troian care promoveaza agenda homosexuala in Romania e Uniunea Salvati Romania formati din tineri care probabil ca nici nu s-au nascut inainte de 1971 cind Manifestul Gay a fost enuntat prima data. Stabilirea, ca dogma de partid, cum a facut-o USR, ca USR se impotriveste protejarii casatoriei naturale in Constitutia Romaniei, e un act extrem care dovedeste lipsa de discernamint si o imitatie slugarnica, dar ieftina, a obiectivelor Manifestului Gay din 1971. USR si alti politicieni romani care inca sunt indecisi privind Articolul 48 ar trebui sa se familiarizeze nu doar cu continutul Manifestului dar mai ales cu ce s-a petrecut in Europa din 1971 incoace in materie de sexualitate si familie. Casatoria si familia sunt dispretuite iar monogamia denigrata. Doar pentru ca ele ofenseaza homosexualii. Acesti politicieni ar trebui sa invete din lectia lui Merkel, lasul Cancelar al Germaniei care si-a sacrificat convingerile religioase si personale pentru un castig politic. Fiica de pastor luteran, pina luna trecuta Merkel a fost consistenta in opozitia ei fata de casatoriile homosexuale, afirmind, public, totdeuna cind a avut ocazia, despre casatoriile homosexuale ca ele vatama copiii. Am afirmat si noi acelasi lucru – din 2006 incoace. Anual si periodic am difuzat in Romania materiale si studii bine documentate privind impactul novic al casatoriilor homosexuale asupra copiilor. Ce rost are atunci sa institutionalizezi institii care dauneaza copiilor? Doar o societate care si-a pierdut ratiunea poate sa faca asa ceva.
In 1948 societatea globala a adoptat, in unanimitate, Declaratia Universala a Drepturilor Omului. Articolul ei 16 afirma: „Cu incepere de la implinirea virstei legale, barbatul si femeia, fara nici o restrictie in ce priveste rasa, nationalitatea sau religia, au dreptul de a se casatori si de a intemeia o familie. … Familia constituie elementul natural si fundamental al societatii si are dreptul la ocrotire din partea societatii si a statului”. Dupa doar 23 de ani, in 1971, un grup minuscul de homosexuali britanici a afirmat contrariul, iar de atunci batalia pentru familie si casatorie se desfasoara sub ochii nostri. Vrem nu vrem, suntem si noi, romanii, antrenati in aceasta batalie. Nadajduim ca materialul de astazi sa va fi convins si mai bine ca familia nu e dusmanul nimanui ci ca dimpotriva e ea sub asediu si ca trebuie protejata de cei care gandesc la fel ca autorii Manifestuluy Gay din 1971.
AMBASADORUL AGRENTINEI INSULTA ROMANIA
Saptamina trecuta v-am informat despre demersul AFR privind Ambasadorul Argentinei la Bucuresti, dl Felipe Alvarez de Toledo, care ne-a insultat semnind, in mai, Declaratia Comuna in sprijinul marsului „diversitatii” de la Bucuresti din 20 mai. V-am rugat sa trimiteti mesaje de protest Ambasadei Argentinei la Bucuresti si Ministerului de Externe al Argentinei. Multi dintre cititorii nostri au dat curs apelului nostru. Va rugam sa continuati sa o faceti. Textul protestului nostru, publicat in intregime saptamina trecuta, il puteti citi din nou aici: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=980101215426608&id=407413792695356.
Va rugam sa transmiteti prin email urmatorul mesaj dlui Ambasador si Ministerului Afacerilor Externe al Argentinei, cu subiectul: „2017 Bucharest pride parade”.
Dear Ambassador Alvarez de Toledo: I have become aware that in May you signed a Joint Declaration, along with ambassadors from other countries accredited to Bucharest, in support of the „pride” event which took place in Bucharest on May 20, 2017. Your action surprised me and, unfortunately, offended me, as it has offended most people of Romania. I view your action as one of interference in Romania’s internal affairs, and as one which undermines the national sovereignty of our nation. I deeply regret that you and your Government have taken this action and respectfully request that you withdraw your singnature from the Declaration. I similarly request, equally respectfully, that you, as well as all future ambassadors of the Republic of Argentina to Romania, never sign any Declarations in the future which directly or impliedly, comment or pass judgment on Romania’s internal affairs, including support for „sexual minorities”. We are a very traditional and socially conservative nation and our values have been deeply rooted in the Christian faith for nearly 2.000 years. Please respect our culture, values and sovereignty. Respectfully. [Adaugati numele]”
Adresele electronice la care va rugam sa trimiteti mesajele sunt urmatoarele: (1) Ambasadorul Felipe Alvarez de Toledo: eruma@cancilleria.gob.ar; (2) Ministerul Afacerilor Externe al Argentinei: info@cancilleria.gob.ar. Va rugam deasemenea sa transmiteti materialul nostru de azi la cit mai multi cu scopul de a fi informati si de a trimite si ei note de protest Ambasadorului Argentinei. Va multumim.
Pe 2 iulie am informat din nou Ambasada Argentinei si Ministerul de Externe al Argentinei privind demersul nostru. Inca nu am primit niciun raspuns. Vom continua demersurile noastre. Suntem deasemenea in contact cu presa argentina privind demersul nostru cit si cu colegii din miscarea pentru familie din Brazilia care si ei promoveaza demersul nostru. Va vom tine la curent.
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Trump, in Poland, Asks if West Has the ‘Will to Survive’
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By GLENN THRUSH and JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVISJULY 6, 2017
WARSAW — President Trump said on Thursday that Western civilization was at risk of decline, bringing a message about “radical Islamic terrorism” and “the creep of government bureaucracy” to a European capital he views as hospitable to his nationalist message.
Mr. Trump, who broke with tradition by attacking American leaders and his country’s intelligence services while abroad, delivered his message in a speech to a friendly Polish crowd before a two-day summit meeting of Group of 20 leaders in Hamburg, Germany.
Hours later, he flew from Warsaw to Hamburg, where he held a low-key private meeting with the German chancellor, Angela Merkel. She perhaps best symbolizes the deep skepticism shared by Western leaders toward Mr. Trump’s persona and his policies, ranging from addressing climate change to confronting Russia.
In what may be a foretaste of the scene during the gathering, 12,000 protesters vowing to disrupt the G-20 summit meeting converged for a demonstration in Hamburg on Thursday night called “Welcome to Hell.” There were reports that dozens of police officers had sustained minor injuries as a small group of protesters attacked them with bottles, poles and iron bars in clashes that lasted until midnight. Up to 100,000 protesters were expected in the coming days.
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Mr. Trump roused his Polish hosts by recounting the country’s history of resistance to invaders, including Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. But he said nothing about the right-wing government’s crackdown on judges and journalists and its refusal to accept more migrants, policies that have upset European Union leaders. He instead praised Poland as a defender of liberty in the face of existential threats.
“The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive,” he said. “Do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost? Do we have enough respect for our citizens to protect our borders? Do we have the desire and the courage to preserve our civilization in the face of those who would subvert and destroy it?”
Pressed at a news conference earlier in the day about Russian interference in the American election, he said that “nobody really knows” if other countries were involved. He blamed President Barack Obama for not responding publicly after learning about reports of possible election meddling last summer.
Mr. Trump — who is under pressure to confront President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia during their first face-to-face meeting in Hamburg on Friday over Mr. Putin’s attempts to sway the election — delivered a mixed message on Russia.
The president made his sharpest criticism of Moscow since taking office, urging Russia to “cease its destabilizing activities in Ukraine and elsewhere and its support for hostile regimes, including Syria and Iran,” and asserting that it must “instead join the community of responsible nations in our fight against common enemies and in defense of civilization itself.”
And Mr. Trump moved to reassure Poland and other allies fretful about Russia’s aggression, making a full-throated endorsement of the collective defense principle that undergirds NATO, something he was unwilling to do during his first trip to Europe as president in May.
“The United States has demonstrated not merely with words but with its actions that we stand firmly behind Article 5, the mutual defense commitment,” Mr. Trump said.
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President Trump with President Andrzej Duda of Poland in Warsaw on Thursday. The two leaders spoke out against journalists who write negative articles about them. Credit Stephen Crowley/The New York Times
But he also said he was not entirely convinced that Russia was solely responsible for interference in the 2016 election, breaking with American intelligence agencies, which have agreed that the efforts emanated from Moscow and were directed by Mr. Putin.
“I think it was Russia, and it could have been other people in other countries,” Mr. Trump said when asked for a yes-or-no answer to the question about Russian meddling. “Nobody really knows for sure.”
To back up his message about uncertainty, he recalled the intelligence failures that preceded President George W. Bush’s decision to invade Iraq in 2003. “Everybody was 100 percent sure that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction,” Mr. Trump said. “They were wrong, and it led to a mess.”
He also had harsh words for North Korea after its recent test of a new long-range missile, but he refused to say what steps he would take to punish it.
“We’ll see what happens — I don’t like to talk about what we have planned — but I have some pretty severe things that we’re thinking about,” Mr. Trump said at the news conference, standing next to his Polish counterpart, Andrzej Duda. “They are behaving in a very, very serious manner, and something will have to be done about it.”
After meeting with Ms. Merkel in Hamburg on Thursday evening, Mr. Trump dined with Prime Minister Shinzo Abe of Japan and President Moon Jae-in of South Korea, discussing a response to the latest threats from North Korea.
Asked by a reporter whether he had given up on President Xi Jinping of China, whom he has repeatedly criticized for failing to apply enough pressure on North Korea to de-escalate, the president said, “Never give up.” He and Mr. Xi will meet separately in Hamburg on Friday or Saturday.
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The trip to Warsaw gave Mr. Trump an opportunity to showcase his willingness to defend Poland against aggression in the face of threats from Russia, and his commitment to helping American workers. He praised Mr. Duda for moving forward with the purchase of the Patriot missile defense system from the United States, which he called “the best anywhere in the world.”
Mr. Trump emerged from a Marriott hotel in Warsaw on Thursday a little after 9:15 a.m., and his sprawling motorcade rode along the Vistula River to a back entrance to the presidential palace. He was greeted by Mr. Duda and disappeared for closed-door meetings after a session with photographers, emerging only for the news conference.
Unlike in Hamburg, there were no major protests in Warsaw, although there were signs of dissent.
Michael Schudrich, Poland’s chief rabbi, and other Jewish leaders criticized Mr. Trump’s decision not to visit a monument to the 1943 ghetto uprising.
Every American president and vice president who has visited Warsaw since the fall of Communism in 1989 has visited the monument. “We deeply regret that President Donald Trump, though speaking in public barely a mile away from the monument, chose to break with that laudable tradition, alongside so many other ones,” the statement read. “We trust that this slight does not reflect the attitudes and feelings of the American people.”
Hours after the Jewish leaders issued their rebuke, the White House sent word that Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter and senior adviser, who is an observant Jew, had visited the ghetto site and laid a wreath at the monument there, visiting the Polin Museum of the History of Polish Jews.
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In a statement distributed to reporters, Ms. Trump said her visit was “a deeply moving experience.”
“It was a privilege to pay my respects and remember, with gratitude, those who tenaciously fought against all odds,” Ms. Trump said in a statement that did not mention Jews or the Holocaust. “The monument, erected on the rubble of the Warsaw Ghetto, symbolizes the fight for freedom. I am profoundly grateful for those who fought and all those who continue to fight today.”
Mr. Trump’s speech in Krasinski Square, which memorializes the Polish people’s resistance to tyranny, was well received, as was his message likening the fight against the Islamic State to Poland’s resistance of German invasion and occupation during World War II.
“We must stand united against these shared enemies to strip them of their territory, their funding, their networks and any form of ideological support,” Mr. Trump said. “While we will always welcome new citizens who share our values and love our people, our borders will always be closed to terrorism and extremism.”
The pro-Duda crowd at Krasinski Square, where many waved American and Polish flags, serenaded reporters from both countries with periodic chants of “fake news.”
That came about an hour after Mr. Trump tag-teamed with Mr. Duda in a transnational denunciation of journalists who write negative stories about them.
The American president criticized CNN and defended what he suggested was a lighthearted tweet of a video depicting him body-slamming a figure whose head had been replaced by the CNN logo.
What made Mr. Trump’s sermon against the mainstream news media different this time was that Mr. Duda’s center-right party, Law and Justice, proposed restricting the news media’s access to Parliament last year. The government backed down after street protests.
“They have been fake news for a long time,” Mr. Trump said of CNN when asked about the tweet, adding that the network had been covering him in “a dishonest way.”
“We don’t want fake news,” he continued, as Mr. Duda nodded vigorously in agreement.
Mr. Duda, responding to an American reporter’s question about his own actions toward the news media, accused Polish journalists of intentionally distorting his record and failing to include his positions in articles critical of his government.
After chastising CNN — a go-to move on both sides of the Atlantic — Mr. Trump went after NBC, his former employer. “NBC is nearly as bad, despite the fact that I made them a lot of money on ‘The Apprentice,’ ” he said.
Krasinski Square is considerably smaller than Zamkowy Square, outside the Royal Palace, where Mr. Obama spoke in 2014. Worried that crowds would not show up on Thursday — Mr. Trump is less popular in Poland’s liberal capital than in the conservative countryside — the authorities chose a smaller, though still symbolically rich, site.
Rick Lyman contributed reporting from Warsaw, and Melissa Eddy from Hamburg, Germany.
A version of this article appears in print on July 7, 2017, on Page A1 of the New York edition with the headline: In Speech, Trump Asks if West Has ‘Will to Survive’. Order Reprints| Today’s Paper|Subscribe
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Pentru voturi, bineinteles, caci aceasta exterminatoare a poporului german nu misca altfel.
Recunoscand la un referendum initiat de ea asupra homosexualitatii, ca 75% din populatie sunt oameni normali
MERKEL A DECLARAT RECENT CA
„PENTRU MINE CASATORIA CE STA SCRISA IN LEGEA NOASTRA DE BAZA/ CONSTITUTIE , ESTE DOAR CASATORIA INTRE BARBAT SI FEMEIE !”
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Au aparut din ce in ce mai numeroase statistici care arata abuzurile sexuale frecvente din cadrul acestor „casatorii” Au fost interviewvati numerosi copii si s-a constatat ca sunt multi foarte nefericiti!!! .
CE E IMPORTANT ESTE CA LA ACEST CAPITOL MERKEL SI-A TRADAT HAITA DIN CARE AU FOST INREGISTRATI TOTI HOMOSEXUALII !
Priviti cifrele perversilor ce au votat pro homo din diversele partide ale Germaniei !
Cum vedeti se poate obtine chiar lista votantilor :
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EU CRED CA ACTUALMENTE EXISTA ÎN LUME DOUA BANDE… ideologic vorbind.
UNA promovează imoralitatea(şi provoacă „criza spirituală”), O A DOUA care luptă pentru restabilirea principiilor morale şi familiale în lume!
Ambele sunt controlate din acelaşi centru!
A DOUA banda va câstiga, în măsura în care va pune umărul la promovarea şi stabilirea unei autorităti politice globale binefăcătoare(anticristul care va legifera moralitate, va restabili şi ordinea, Noua Ordine Evanghelică ca un răspuns la „criza spurituală” a omenirii; se aplică vechiul procedeu Problemă + Reacție= Soluție)!
Conştiente sau nu, ambele bande ideologice sunt dirijate , în interesul celor care le şi controlează!
Creştinii încă nu realizează că sunt manipulati să pună, şi ei, umărul pentru ca cea de a DOUA bandă să îşi atingă scopul(care va duce la stabilirea şi definitivarea unei autorităti globale)!
Vorbim de dialectica hegeliană(caracteristcă ordinului iezuit: care are unic scop , prin jurământ, aducerea lumii sub controlul https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7572d25d7872048806ebc261b7bd6c3f670b6c78fe9ec40ac2dd5721176e5e2e.jpg papalitătii… ” , o viziune şi o SINGURĂ autoritate publică globală, şi care să fie şi independentă ! ).